The cornerstone of the Christian religions is conversion. Win souls for Jesus! Christianity is much, much more about growing the faith than it is about actually following the teachings of Christ. So how do you convince an otherwise normal person to join a religion that they otherwise wouldn’t join? Threaten them with eternal hellfire if they don’t join. It worked brilliantly for millennia. But where does Christianity get the idea for hell? Straight from the bible, of course! But then again, the bible contradicts itself more times than I can count. In many verses the punishment for sin is hell. In others punishment is death. The list is long, so bear with me.
Verses supporting hell for sinners
- Daniel 12:2
- Matthew 13:41-42
- Matthew 18:8-9
- Matthew 22:13
- Matthew 25:41
- Matthew 25:46
- Mark 9:43-48
- Luke 16:22-24
- John 5:28-29
- 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9
- Jude 1:7
- Revelation 14:10-11
- Revelation 20:10
- Revelation 20:14-15
Verses supporting only death for sinners
- Deuteronomy 29:20
- Psalm 1:4-6
- Psalm 34:16
- Psalm 37:1-2
- Psalm 37:20
- Psalm 69:28
- Proverbs 10:25
- Proverbs 24:20
- Obadiah 1:16
- Romans 6:21
- Romans 6:23
- 1 Corinthians 3:17
- 2 Corinthians 2:15
- Galatians 6:8
- Philippians 3:18-19
- James 1:15
- James 4:12
- James 5:20
But not to worry! First, it’s highly, highly unlikely that hell exists. It’s so unlikely that we can completely disregard it as a possibility. But furthermore, there are bible verses that claim that everyone, including sinners, goes to heaven! Verses like 1 Corinthians 15:22 and 1 John 2:2, which states “and he [Jesus] is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world.” The whole world, which must also include the indigenous peoples of modern Americas who never heard of Jesus.
In short, the bible makes three contradictory claims: 1) sinners go to hell, 2) sinners die, and 3) everyone goes to heaven.
As usual, there is no contradiction here.
Comparing Quote 1 with Quote 2 is comparing apples with oranges.
That particular logical fallacy is an atheist favorite.
In the first quote, Jesus is using a rhetorical technique called hyperbole (high-PER-bow-lee) to express the grave nature of sin.
In the second quote, Saint Paul is explaining the wonder and purpose of Jesus Christ.
So clearly, the atheist may as well read, “The Chronicles of Mickey Mouse,” and call it the Bible.
That way the Bible Contradiction #41 would make a lot more sense.
I would recommend reading the post instead of just the image. I clearly demonstrate the contradiction.
The meme is your first premise. I proved that your first premise is false.
That means that every that comes after your false first premise is also false.
Your problem is that you don’t have the foggiest idea what the Bible says or means..
The meme is not the premise. The text includes the premise. The meme is merely a copy/paste of two verses that fit the length requirement. Do you stop reading news articles after the headline? No. You read the body as well. I would strongly suggest actually reading posts before slinging accusations about those posts.
Recess is over. Time to go in. Go on. Be a good boy.
No Mr Zhen, he’s som is right. As he has stated:
It’s a byproduct of Disneyland, that’s just pact full of magical wonder! Ha!
You are pathetic. There is no contradiction.
Haa. Well said.
Well said Silenceofmind. The truth is that the natural man can’t perceive the things of the spirit. There is more to it than just one verse. There is a whole chapter that summerizes that one verse. The bible is more than ink and paper.
Hell is definitely for real.
If I know the headline on a “news” article is bogus, I don’t bother wasting my time reading the article.
If you can’t get your headline right, you certainly are going to make hash out of the article.
Bible study requires actual knowledge of the Bible.
Atheists make up whatever they need to, whenever they need to, in order to make the atheist narrative work.
That means that atheism is an unprincipled attack on reason and truth.
If I know the headline of a “news” article is bogus, I don’t bother wasting my time reading the article.
Enough said. Since it’s very obvious that you don’t read any news articles, it’s most obvious then how you can’t even begin to understand your blabblle.
The truth is that Death comes first, then judgment.
Yup, hell is for real. Does a guilty murderer go to jail, or prison or perhaps the death penalty? A criminal goes to jail first, then awaits judgment, then goes to serve his sentance. The question is, who can escape hell? Or who can escape death?
If you read around 1 Corinthians 15:22 and 1 John 2:2, you would see the context in who these verses are refering to. Go ahead, take out your bibles.
Let me give an example, Matthew 7:1 yells us NOT to judge and John 7:24 tells us to judge. I know why. Read around it. Hell is for real. So is salvation.
Not a contradiction, you just do not understand scripture!
1 Cor. 2:14 “The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned”
Dear Rayan Zehn,
In answering this contradiction, I am very impressed at the amount of research you have gone through to prove your point at a contradiction. However, if you were to look further within your search, you would clearly see that BEFORE Jesus came to earth and died on the cross, the wages for all sin, is indeed death. That is why sacrifices were necessary in the Old Testament for sins. There was no redemption through a perfect savior (Jesus). So there was nothing but death. But when Jesus died on the cross, it changed. No more sacrifices such as lambs were necessary because Jesus was the ultimate sacrifice for sins. The reason He did this is because God loves us so much that He wants us to go to heaven with Him. He sent his Son Jesus to die so we may be able to be with God forever. In the Garden of Eden, when Adam and Eve first sinned against God, it separated our relationship between man and God. Jesus is the bridge that comes between man and God. Since we are all human and all sin, we are by no means perfect and need a perfect savior to wash us clean with His own flesh and blood.
1 Peter 3:18 ESV / 15 helpful votes
For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit,
Hebrews 10:10 ESV / 14 helpful votes
And by that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
1 John 2:2 ESV / 12 helpful votes
He (Jesus) is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world.
John 3:16 ESV / 12 helpful votes
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
Romans 6:23 ESV / 10 helpful votes
For the wages of sin is death(without Jesus), but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Hebrews 9:28 ESV / 9 helpful votes
So Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.
Notice how all these scriptures have Christ in them and speak of life.
Now I know you are an atheist, but in the vast amount of research you have done, you know that almost all (if not all) religions and belief systems of the world have some form of “hell”. In knowing this, it is not just the Bible that speaks of a place where you would go if you are “bad enough”. In saying this, as Christians, we are to speak to non believers in a loving way about preventing them to go to hell. It is not meant to be a threat, unless taken that way, it is supposed to be a warning of what is to come. If Christians threaten with hell, they are doing it WRONG. If they do it with love, it will be a WARNING of hell. Anybody can go to hell if they choose to do so. That is why God gave us freewill. But that is an entirely different subject on its own. God wants us to be with Him in heaven. Lucifer belongs in the lake of fire, not people. God made man to love and to enjoy, not to damn us to hell. Then you may ask “well then why did He create Lucifer?” He created Lucifer for the same reason; to enjoy him. It was of Lucifer’s own freewill to become jealous and turn from God. Just like any man may do….but back to the subject at hand….Lucifer (Satan) has more power than a mere mortal, so he manipulates man into turning away from God and joining him in eternal damnation with him, away from God’s presence for all eternity.
As for your research on 1 Corinthians 15:22 New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (NRSVCE)
22 for as all die in Adam, so all will be made alive in Christ.
This verse refers to the fleshly body that must die in order to receive heaven. For we must go back into the ground where our bodies came from. We do not take our earthly bodies to heaven with us. It also repeats the fact that Jesus is the savior in which we are alive by. Our resurrection is not by a fleshly body, but by spirit only. Flesh and belongings will not go to heaven with us.
1 John 2:2 New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (NRSVCE)
2 and he is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world.
He, being Jesus, saves us sinners (Yes, Christians are also considered sinners!) from hell because of His shed blood and broken body on our behalf. The thing with atheist beliefs is that most of the time, they believe Christians think they are perfect. They would not be wrong about some Christians but this is a WRONG attitude to have as a Christian! We ALL need to realize NONE of us are perfect! Which is why we need Jesus (Who lived a perfect life) to be as a PERFECT sacrifice for our sins. Otherwise we WOULD go to hell (including Christians). The difference is, if someone believes in Jesus or not. For He is the only way to the Father.
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. NO ONE comes to the Father except through me.
Simple answer, if you believe in Jesus and profess it by accepting Him as your Lord and Savior, you are sanctified and therefore saved from Hell. If you do not believe in Jesus and do NOT accept Him as Lord and Savior, you take the dangerous route. I am not to judge whether or not someone goes to Hell so I won’t say that as a for sure fact. For God is the ultimate judge, not me or any other man that walks the earth. I do pray this answered your contradiction well and I look forward to a response.
First of all the eternal torment doctrine comes from Greek methodology.. It doesn’t exist .. The Hebrew word for hell is Sheol .. by definition means Pit, Grave , Hell .. Hell is your grave so is hades which is the Greek word meaning the same thing .. Now HELL FIRE takes place upon the return of Jesus.. it’s an event not a place .. it’s not eternal .. nothing can survive extreme heat .. Lake of Fire is an event that takes place after the 1,000 years after Jesus Returned .. This is the second resurrection of the wicked n disobedient.. These will receive their judgement known as the Great White Throne Judgement .. All in this resurrection will be destroyed in the Lake Of Fire with Satan n his evil angels .. For the 1,000 years earth will be desolate with no human life .. The righteous were taken up with Jesus to Heaven and the Rest were destroyed upon the return of Christ .. only ones left are Satan and His Angels whom are bound to this planet for 1,000 years with no one to tempt .. After the 1,000 years he is released for a short time for the second resurrection has come n now he has a world full of people to tempt .. all the wicked n disobedient from the beginning of time to the end will be there .. every last one of them .. They will all be destroyed together .. torched to ashes just as it was in Sodom n Gommorah .. That event was set forth as a warning to future generations as to what will happen to the wicked n disobedient in the end .. Turned to ashes NOT tormented for eternity . God is fair n just .. Pure Love .. Won’t torment anyone for an eternity , Not even Satan .. Oh and death is nothing but a sleep .. No one goes anywhere until Jesus returns for us .. until then you just rest .. Immortal soul doctrine is false .. again comes from methodology not the Bible .. From dust you came and to dust you shall return .. For the wage of sin is death .. Vast majority of churches teach a lot of pagan beliefs .. Holidays are all pagan .. If anyone is truly curious or interested in studying n learning more contact a local Seventh-day Adventist Church near you .. They teach the most truth out of any denominations out there .. Satan has infiltrated n corrupted the vast majority of churches today that they teach false doctrine that is not true at all .. The cause of so many not even believing anymore .. Truth is not found in a denominational or non denominational churches .. Truth is found in the Bible .. Prophecy lines up perfectly with history with pin point accuracy .. No human can predict what God did in prophecy hundreds to thousands of years before it ever happened .. That takes a divine being .. Lose faith in man kind .. I have ! But not in God .. Satan caused our evil world not God .. God will put an end to everything as we know it today n make it brand new again for his people .. Eternal Life !!! Keeping the Commandments of God found in Exodus 20 and faith in Jesus is all it takes to receive eternal life .. Just 10 Laws he ask us to follow and faith in Christ Jesus .. That’s it .. If you can do that you have fulfilled everything God asks of you . It’s the whole duty of man .. Life hasn’t began yet .. This is a test to receive it .. Pass the test you receive it , Fail it you are destroyed .. no middle ground or gray area .. Eternal life sounds better than 70-80 years tops for the average person .. that’s not long enough to accomplish everything I want to .. My advice to everyone is do your own research.. Don’t listen to churches .. Get a King James Bible n study it .. Bible is where you find the truth .. Learn history from the time of nimrod forward till present .. Babylon to America is a great biblical documentary on YouTube that explains a lot of accurate history.. Thanks for reading