These murderers are now in heaven; many of their victims are in hell

If you buy the heaven myth, then you gotta buy the whole myth. Even serial killers get a ticket to heaven if they meet the following requisites: accept Jesus as your lord and savior and ask forgiveness for your sins. That said, I’d like to point out a list of people who committed horrible crimes but are now enjoying eternity in bliss…according to the Christian religion. Many of their victims, on the other hand, are burning in hell.

Jeffrey Dahmer


This serial killer was responsible for the deaths of at least 17 people, many of whom were minors. A cannibal, necrophile, and all-around weirdo, Dahmer spent his time in prison being saved, being baptized, converting to Christianity and ministering to his fellow inmates. He was murdered by a mentally unstable man in 1994. What makes Dahmer’s case so interesting is that, while Christian teachings have us believe that he is in heaven, almost all of his victims died during homosexual encounters. Therefore, if Christians are right, Dahmer’s sitting up there in heaven enjoying the finest things in the afterlife, but his victims are burning in hell. I wonder how many Christians ever bothered to consider this.

Stephen Morin


Brutally murdered as many as 30 victims. His final potential victim survived after convincing Morin to convert to Christianity. He was executed in 1985, but just prior to his death he asked Jesus for forgiveness and gave himself to Jesus, thus securing his spot next to god.

Sean Sellers


This one’s debated, but when Sellers was 17 this confessed satanist murdered his parents as they slept. He was sentenced to death row, where he converted to Christianity. Just before his execution he sang a Christian hymn, thus riding the stairway to heaven.

Velma Barfield


This lovely lady, Velma Barfield, was convicted of one murder, but evidence suggests that she killed six, including her own mother, two husbands, a boyfriend, and a couple of elderly folk. She was arrested and sentenced to death. During her time on death row, she converted to Christianity and led prison prayer meetings. Upon her execution the Reverend Billy Graham sang praise for Barfield’s model of a good Christian. Billy Graham will be in good company in heaven we he departs this world.

Westley Allan Dodd


Dodd murdered and raped three young children, one as young as four. When he was captured he felt remorse and begged to receive the death penalty to ensure that he never hurt anyone again. The state complied and he was executed in 1993. In prison he converted to Christianity. His last words were, “I was once asked by somebody, I don’t remember who, if there was any way sex offenders could be stopped. I said, ‘No.’ I was wrong. I was wrong when I said there was no hope, no peace. There is hope. There is peace. I found both in the Lord, Jesus Christ. Look to the Lord, and you will find peace.” These days he’s frolicking in heavenly fields with his murder victims.

Michael Bruce Ross


Michael Ross raped and murdered eight women from 1981 to 1984. In prison he converted to Catholicism and counseled other inmates. He felt extreme remorse for his crimes, and sought to expedite his execution, even though it took 18 years. His decision was twofold: First to provide closure to the families of his victims, and second, to return to god. And that’s where Ross is now, with god. He was finally executed in 2005, spending his final days in deep prayer.

David Berkowitz


Berkowitz, the Son of Sam, is still alive (as of this writing). But during the 1970s he was a prolific serial killer. His final body count stands at six dead and seven wounded. He blamed demon possession for his actions. Nevertheless, he was given a life sentence for each of his victims. One day while reading the bible with a fellow inmate, Berkowitz had a sudden conversion to Christianity. His faith led him to refuse parole even though he’s eligible under New York laws. These days he writes books and essays expressing hope through Jesus. While Berkowitz has a fairly good chance at getting admission through the pearly gates, some of his victims do not. They were shot while having premarital rendezvous, you know, a sin according to Christians.

Karla Faye Tucker


Finally, Karla Faye Tucker murdered two people in Texas with a pickaxe, claiming to have experienced orgasms after each blow. She was arrested and sentenced to death. During her incarceration, she converted to Christianity. Her deep spiritual conversion led several prominent figures, including the Blessed Pope John Paul II to beg for her life to be spared. The state even received pleas from the brother of one of her victims. This was to no avail, and she was executed. Her last statement contained apologies to the victims’ families, a prayer to Jesus, and a promise to see her loved ones again in heaven–all those things necessary to actually get to heaven. One of her victims, however, was a wife beater and possible drug addict, none of which correlate with being on god’s good side. Thus, she’s in heaven, and her victim in hell.


Christians would have us believe that no matter how awful our crimes are, we still have an opportunity to go to heaven, even if we’ve stolen that opportunity from our victims. If one is murdered during the throes of sin, one is damned, or so the Christians would say. But their murderers get to heaven by default, as long as they repent and accept Jesus.

This has even more horrible implications for rape victims. A person is raped, their rapist is caught, and he finds salvation through Christ. His victim, on the other hand, is unable to cope with the trauma and commits suicide. The victim goes to hell by no fault of their own, while the rapist goes to heaven. I ask again: Do Christians even bother to consider these major ethical problems with their god?

NOTE: This was originally posted on one of my other blogs, but since I’ve created this one specifically to handle atheist-themed posts, I decided to repost it here.

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23 Responses to These murderers are now in heaven; many of their victims are in hell

  1. Bob says:

    Your conclusion that many of the victims of the listed murderers would necessarily be consigned to eternal damnation due to criminal acts perpetrated on them or because they committed suicide as a result of their victimization is not supported by Scripture [contrary to your assertion]. Also, your suggestion that someone’s self-professed conversion earns them an eternal place in God’s presence is also misplaced. Perhaps you should just allow the God you don’t believe in to sort out who joins Him in heaven [which you do not believe in] and who does not. Christians who know their Scripture would not need to deal with this false dilemma you seem so proud of having crafted.

    • Michael says:

      Perhaps you should learn your bible, the flaw in your god’s divine plan is real, the murderer can accept Jesus and go to heaven while the victim who hadn’t asked Jesus will go to hell if they died beforehand, and the bible plainly states all sins are equal in that they all separate sinners from God.

      • My name is August West says:

        How is that a flaw? There are no good people in heaven, just redeemed sinners. There are simply two types of people. Those who trust in Christ for their imperfections no matter how severe and those who don’t. “ When Jesus heard that, he said to them, The whole have no need of the physician, but the sick do. I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.“ Mark 2:17 You think you yourself are not a murderer? Lol Jesus gets right down to the heart of the matter when He says even if you hate someone you are guilty of murder!! The irony is you try to debunk God so you can sin all the more! The same reason a thief doesn’t go actively seeking out a police officer. The blood of God is more powerful than any sin on the planet and His grace and forgiveness immeasurable to those truly seeking it. You are elevating yourself to the position of judge. Judge of God no less… 😬 Careful where you tread friend.

  2. godsdog says:

    what most people don’t seem to understand is that god only saves humanity, but that which doesn’t walk upright in the ways of god do not get accepted into heaven, now for the real kicker, an explanation of psalms 44 and gods word, it is his name, YHVH, as Hebrew (meaning read from left to right rather than right to left, like a mirror, which god deemed to call Michael (micha meaning “one who is like” and el meaning “god”, which si signifigent too, let me explain..

    the symbol yod means “through the arm and hand of god”, it also represents the letter Y, and this was the meaning when jesus said remember god first and foremost, because we don’t serve god when unconsciencious of him..

    then for symbols 2, 3 and 4 (HVH ,aka heh vav heh) state man covers and protects man, and this was the meaning of the second statement that man was to love his neighbor as though he loved himself.

    now for the mirror, Michael bit, when read backwards the paleohebrew letters take on a new meaning, it says : Behold hand, behold nail”.

    now read psalms 44 understanding that, it says kill with kindness, your murderers aren’t in heaven my brother, hope you come to realize that the greater good is never one with he who serves the lord of esau, who is the angel of the lord that wrestled Jacob and stuck his finger in the hipsocket and took prophecy from man, the adversary of the wrestling match, adversary.. translated into a name would be “Satan”.

    sama meaning “Blind” and el meaning “god”, the lord of ignorance and death, the lord of darkness.
    samael, signified by the gamel (camel).

    you disbelieve because you understand not and won’t seek understanding, god is understanding.. don’t get it? be simple, be true, eat some shrooms, god loves you.

  3. godsdog says:

    also about the w v thing, vav has 2 v’s in t, which were originally represented by v’s, and V’s were represented with u’s, so 2 V’s = 2 U’s would be double, two is double..

  4. Jen says:

    Humans are limited–we only see and judge based on outward appearances; only God sees past that into our most private thoughts and true motives of the heart. There is no hiding from or deceiving God. For sinners–whether victims or a perpetrators– if there’s a true contrition and repentance of sin, God is merciful and faithful to forgive. So although we may have our opinions, ultimately, we fully trust in God and leave final judgment to Him from whom absolutely nothing is hidden.

  5. Remus says:

    There’s no guarantee they are in heaven. If they were truly sorry and did enough penance though, then perhaps they are. But we don’t know. If there’s no afterlife, however, then ultimately there’s no justice. We can do any evil we want and there’s no ultimate consequences for us. Yeah, so much better. Oh, and just for kicks:

  6. A Christian Too says:

    Not all Christians believe the same doctrine. And not all people that claim to be Christians are. Some “born again” Christians aren’t going to make it to heaven, because it takes a lot more than mouthing doctrine and rambling off prayers to be forgiven. Claiming one accepts God and Christ means nothing if one’s actions show otherwise. Some of us Christians happen to believe that for sincere converts that gain forgiveness for horrible sins, they still will undergo just punishment and retribution before getting through those pearly gates, because God is just. Forgiveness doesn’t mean “get off scott-free” without consequences, even in the after life. A true convert would recognize this, change their actions so as to stop hurting others for their own benefit, and also accept what consequences await for the evil that they committed. Some Christians believe that regardless of religious conversion, the chaff will still have to be separated from the wheat in the afterlife, but that it is the good that’s left over which was inspired a person’s sincere conversion, is the part of the person that can eventually enter heaven. Same for non Christians who live honest and ethical lives- they are God’s creations too and he’s not going to turn his back on them when they die just because they didn’t mouth a particular religious dogma in life that the some so called Christians preach. Saying you are Christian and accept Christ as your savior, and actually having God in your heart and being saved are two entirely different things.

  7. Chris Wilson says:

    It is true that not all those who claim faith in Jesus of Nazareth as Savior and Lord subscribe to the same concepts of the afterlife. Some are universalists, believing that all people everywhere shall be saved in the end. I am not one of those. Others believe that the afterlife provides moral purifying or purging from all sin (purgatory). Therefore equipping the offender for life in heaven. I am not one of those either. Still others subscribe to the broad view that you suggest in your condemnation of all Christians everywhere. I don’t.
    Your assertion that Hell is a place of never ending torture in perpetual flames never to be extinguished, is admittedly the status quo. There are other viewpoints however with stronger Biblical support. Hell is a word having come into the English language from pagan mythology. It is used in our English bibles to translate one Hebrew and two Greek words. The Hebrew, Sheol is to them, the abode of departed spirits, the unseen world. The only punishment, is that of personal remorse and apprehension of the disembodied souls awaiting the final judgement following the resurrection of Rev. 20:11-15. The equivalent Greek word to Sheol is, “Hades.”
    At this last judgement, Hell (Sheol / Hades), after delivering up the dead, is itself permanently destroyed (Rev. 20:14) along with those who fail the final judgment. The place of this destruction (annihilation) is called “the lake of fire” It is illustrated in the New Testament by the ancient local garbage dump formerly located outside the walls of Jerusalem called “the valley of Hinnom”, or in Hebrew “ge Hinnom”, which in Greek becomes “gehenna”. Fires were kept continually burning there to destroy the refuse of the city including the bodies of unclean (non kosher) animals, even the of unclaimed criminals. It served as the local crematorium. Jesus used it as an illustration of the ultimate final annihilation of the wicked. Not a place of torture but that of total destruction.
    In reference to your proposal as to who makes it to heavenly bliss and who does not. The serial killer or his homosexual victim. More specifically, as to “the christian concept”, don’t paint us all with the same brush. A truly repentant sinner who has believed on the Lord Jesus Christ and received him as Savior will. Even the serial killer. Those of his victims, who you presume have not died in faith, will await the final judgement in the abode of departed spirits. Not having been saved by faith in the finished and vicarious sacrifice of Christ they will not then not be given a “pass” for the final judgement. Their future then will depend on God’s judgement of whatever of their own works of righteousness shall be deemed as worthy of redemption. (Romans 2:6-14, Rev. 20:15)

  8. Dan says:

    Random thoughts/questions:
    If God is truly “all good”, why do natural disasters kill so many? 250,000 in the 2004 tsunami alone! Wrap your head around that number…….many were children who hadn’t “sinned”. I struggle with these occurrences.
    Why didn’t God send Jesus later…….when there’d be a much greater chance of being exposed to today’s technology and media? Can you imagine the following if his resurrection was on tape??
    I realize you must have “faith”…….but faith doesn’t relieve parents of murdered children…..again, why would an “all loving and good God” allow it?
    I feel like the answers from leaders of faith about “free will” are just trained responses……
    Let’s say a young child was a victim of abuse…….abuse to the point of death…..and his abuser ultimately converts to Christianity and accepts Jesus. So this child and his abuser are both in Heaven? How is that any consolation for the child’s family? That’d make me sick!
    Why do I feel like science is unraveling the “mystery” of religion?
    Please share your thoughts and responses as I thoroughly enjoy the opinions of others (to an extent!)

  9. Mary Renee Roland-Humphries says:

    U r missing it. Jesus is savior of the whole world and u have a galse view of true fsith which is simply a free gift by God’s grace. He knew we could not keep his law..the law was given so that every mouth may be stopped and all become guilty before God. We all sin daily bc we fall short of God’s perfection but through simple faith God imputes his righteousness on us bc ojr sin was imputed on christ. Most christians dont know Christ nor the real msg of the gospel. Dont judge it by religious hypocrites and galse gospel msgs. I am jated by so called Christians who r anything but Christ like bc i preach tru grace on my channel bc i hate self rigjteous garbage against gay ppl or ppl with sin different than thiers. They wrest s ripture n only serve to push ppl from Jesus not to his grace. Hopefully u will know God will right all wrong n will b glorified in that so these killers victims r not in n hell. We will not have this fallen mind in God’s presence. I am a victim of 2 men who left me disabled n i pray for God’s grace for them too..that is a supernatural thing that only God can do. Makes me sad false teachers have made u think God is a rule demanding torturer…he is not. Gospel has been lost

  10. Mary Renee Roland-Humphries says:

    Ps Catholic garbage says suicide sends u to hell. King saul and sampson both committed suicide n r saved.

  11. Roseanne says:

    Ezekiel 18 King James Version (KJV)
    18 The word of the Lord came unto me again, saying,

    2 What mean ye, that ye use this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying, The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children’s teeth are set on edge?

    3 As I live, saith the Lord God, ye shall not have occasion any more to use this proverb in Israel.

    4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

    5 But if a man be just, and do that which is lawful and right,

    6 And hath not eaten upon the mountains, neither hath lifted up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, neither hath defiled his neighbour’s wife, neither hath come near to a menstruous woman,

    7 And hath not oppressed any, but hath restored to the debtor his pledge, hath spoiled none by violence, hath given his bread to the hungry, and hath covered the naked with a garment;

    8 He that hath not given forth upon usury, neither hath taken any increase, that hath withdrawn his hand from iniquity, hath executed true judgment between man and man,

    9 Hath walked in my statutes, and hath kept my judgments, to deal truly; he is just, he shall surely live, saith the Lord God.

    10 If he beget a son that is a robber, a shedder of blood, and that doeth the like to any one of these things,

    11 And that doeth not any of those duties, but even hath eaten upon the mountains, and defiled his neighbour’s wife,

    12 Hath oppressed the poor and needy, hath spoiled by violence, hath not restored the pledge, and hath lifted up his eyes to the idols, hath committed abomination,

    13 Hath given forth upon usury, and hath taken increase: shall he then live? he shall not live: he hath done all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon him.

    14 Now, lo, if he beget a son, that seeth all his father’s sins which he hath done, and considereth, and doeth not such like,

    15 That hath not eaten upon the mountains, neither hath lifted up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, hath not defiled his neighbour’s wife,

    16 Neither hath oppressed any, hath not withholden the pledge, neither hath spoiled by violence, but hath given his bread to the hungry, and hath covered the naked with a garment,

    17 That hath taken off his hand from the poor, that hath not received usury nor increase, hath executed my judgments, hath walked in my statutes; he shall not die for the iniquity of his father, he shall surely live.

    18 As for his father, because he cruelly oppressed, spoiled his brother by violence, and did that which is not good among his people, lo, even he shall die in his iniquity.

    19 Yet say ye, Why? doth not the son bear the iniquity of the father? When the son hath done that which is lawful and right, and hath kept all my statutes, and hath done them, he shall surely live.

    20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

    21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.

    22 All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.

    23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord God: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?

    24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.

    25 Yet ye say, The way of the Lord is not equal. Hear now, O house of Israel; Is not my way equal? are not your ways unequal?

    26 When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die.

    27 Again, when the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed, and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul alive.

    28 Because he considereth, and turneth away from all his transgressions that he hath committed, he shall surely live, he shall not die.

    29 Yet saith the house of Israel, The way of the Lord is not equal. O house of Israel, are not my ways equal? are not your ways unequal?

    30 Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, saith the Lord God. Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin.

    31 Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

    32 For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord God: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.

  12. Draco says:

    Well that’s the way it goes . Like it or not that’s how it is . It’s not by your works ! It’s by Jesus’s finished work on the cross . Your missing the whole point . Every person who has been murdered has had their chance to commit to Christ . Whether they did or not is only known by God . A lot of people come to the knowledge of God when they are at their lowest point ( aka : prison , death row ) . It makes no difference to him how you do it . The type of salvation your talking about is a fairy tale . Your bad you go to hell and your good and suffer at the hands of someone else and your automatically in . No it doesn’t work like that and Thank God it doesn’t . We have free will . If we want to murder , get saved , or reject salvation that is completely in our hands and on us . He doesn’t pick and choose who accepts him . Therefore murderer’s can go to Heaven , pornographers can go to Heaven , thieves , rapists , drug dealers , they can all make a decision to accept Christ and ask for forgiveness . Likewise the murdered , the raped , the ones that have been stole from , etc . , also have this same opportunity. So yeah this can definitely be the end result of a tragedy . Just the way it is .

  13. I am sure these murderers are not in heaven. Their self-serving new-found religion seems to me they try to fool God too.

  14. Teresa Sanchez Davila says:

    Not everyone who says Lord Lord and also read Bible part that says, murders will not inherit the kingdom of God. Simply put many claiming to be christians will not make it. It was few are chosen. Everyone wants into heaven, but God will judge everything even the secret thoughts, sins, and even actions such as murdering someone. But since we are still on earth alive we should seek justice for the wronged. But ultimately God will judge your soul. Scary when it says it’s a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

  15. sam says:

    we will all die,the matter of death does not matter,what matters is in what state we die,if you die rejecting Jesus you go to HELL and if you die accepting Jesus and being holy you go to heaven..being a serial killer is forgivable to God almighty,God is not a human being,he is merciful…those victims if they died with Jesus is their hearts they would go to heaven…even Stephen was killed by stoning but he was a holy man and he went to heaven…if you are a victim and u are atheist u will go to HELL straight away because you rejected Jesus when u were alive.

  16. James Kalegaric says:

    Without Faith it is impossible to please God.
    Judge not lest ye be judged.
    God is true , let every man be a liar.
    The just shall live be faith.
    John 3:16 no exceptions no excuses.
    God knows those who are His, His ways are
    Not our ways .
    We should should just accept the truth
    It is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of a living God . Good or Bad . We will all face the music , so to speak .

    • Rayan Zehn says:

      Hi James, these types of comments fascinate me. Can you satisfy at least a small part of my curiosity? Why do you comment thusly? Do you believe that I, the author of this humorous post, will decide to leave reason behind and embrace your specific kind of theology? (I can tell you, that’s some wasted effort). Do you believe that maybe, just maybe, even if it’s merely 1/10000000, a reader will come to this site and abandon reason to embrace your specific brand of theology? I just don’t understand what you believe you can gain from these kinds of comments. Please, enlighten me to your psychology.

  17. gene cottongim says:

    those vile murderers are in hell period their phony conversions only comes after they kill innocent people and are caught you phony christians make me sick you are cowards

  18. Ella says:

    I’m pretty sure its very common for prisoners especially with life sentences to publicly turn to God in hopes they will start a new leaf and appeal for a shorter sentence for “good behavior” or get rewards little bits of freedom within prison and trust. So honestly, we dont know if any of those killers are actually in heaven (if christianity is right) it would take an all powerful and knowing God to be able to make a fair decision on heaven or hell. I’m not doubting their faith, it’s possible but i assure you if there is a fake agenda behind it, they will not be in heaven. Also take notice that God hardened Pharoahs heart when he kept changing his mind about letting his slaves go but then saying he wanted to keep them. God knew he wasnt genuine so he hardened his heart so he could go through with what he truly wanted. based from the Bible, if someone has hated God his whole life or rejected him, chances are a last minute, “i believe!” is gonna do it. But I am NOT God so who knows just wanted to add my bit in there.

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